01001.111001 <@ atoponce> g'morn 01001.111010 <@ Black_Chaos> howdy 01001.111010 >>> linuxalien!i=linuxali@gateway/tor/x-5906b4e05e71eefb 01001.111010 ChanServ sets +o linuxalien 01001.111010 <@ linuxalien> hi guys 01001.111010 <@ atoponce> morning 01001.111010 <@ linuxalien> morning! 01010.000001 <@ linuxalien> Everyone here? 01010.000101 <@ atoponce> yeah 01010.000101 <@ atoponce> sorry, mom called 01010.000110 <@ atoponce> just waiting for john. said he'd be here 01010.000111 <@ linuxalien> No worries 01010.001000 >>> dragon!n=dragon@c-24-10-128-239.hsd1.ut.comcast.net 01010.001000 < dragon> howdy all sorry i am late 01010.001000 <@ atoponce> topics to cover: planning for sept 30th, oct 12th, and oct28th meets; when to have regular officer meets on irc; status of high school students; books, schwag, etc.; anything else under the sun 01010.001000 <@ atoponce> dragon: np 01010.001000 <@ linuxalien> Hi! No prob. 01010.001001 atoponce sets +oooo dragon Dapper606 tristanbob_ unum 01010.001001 <@ atoponce> my connection might fizzle out during our meet. just continue without me. :-)» 01010.001001 atoponce is uning tor 01010.001001 <@ atoponce> s/uning/using/ 01010.001010 <@ linuxalien> I'm using tor as well 01010.001100 <@ atoponce> so, who's showing what distro on the 30th? i am showing damn small linux 01010.001100 <@ linuxalien> Ok, what should we do for Sept 30 meeting? 01010.001100 <@ atoponce> for our distro smackdown 01010.001100 <@ linuxalien> Oh ok 01010.001100 <@ linuxalien> Hmmm 01010.001100 <@ dragon> didn't you ask me to do ubuntu? 01010.001100 <@ linuxalien> I can try to get Gentoo instaled in Virtual PC. 01010.001100 <@ atoponce> dragon: yeah. i think so 01010.001100 <@ Black_Chaos> I was going to do SuSE 01010.001101 <@ atoponce> linuxalien: were you going to do gentoo? i don't remember, although i could read the log i guess 01010.001101 <@ linuxalien> I never said as far as I can remember. 01010.001101 atoponce checks... 01010.001111 <@ atoponce> linuxalien: ahh. that's right, you missed the meet! 01010.010000 <@ atoponce> :-)» 01010.010000 <@ atoponce> can you do gentoo? 01010.010000 <@ linuxalien> Yup. 01010.010000 <@ linuxalien> :P 01010.010000 <@ atoponce> probably about 10-15 minutes? 01010.010000 <@ linuxalien> Sure, I could do that 01010.010001 <@ atoponce> cool. can everyone hold that timeframe? if we go over, i doubt it's a big deal 01010.010001 <@ dragon> what level should we present on... beginer, intermediate, or professional? 01010.010010 <@ Black_Chaos> and is it just a this is what makes this distro stand out? 01010.010010 <@ atoponce> i'm thinking probably beginner to intermediate. i'm just going to go over the advantages/disadvantages and uses of DSL. 01010.010010 <@ atoponce> Black_Chaos: exactly 01010.010011 <@ atoponce> what makes ubuntu different from all the rest of the distros, and why would i want to use it? 01010.010011 <@ dragon> ok, np 01010.010011 <@ atoponce> then maybe some quick tutorials showcasing the distro 01010.010100 <@ dragon> is there going to be a projector available ? 01010.010100 <@ atoponce> does everone have a laptop, or computer that they can bring? 01010.010100 <@ linuxalien> Yeah 01010.010100 <@ atoponce> dragon: yeah, if we can still use building 2 on the main campus 01010.010101 <@ Black_Chaos> computer= not really 01010.010101 <@ atoponce> does suse have a livecd? 01010.010110 <@ Black_Chaos> they have a live DVD 01010.010111 <@ atoponce> ok. 01010.010111 <@ atoponce> there's a computer there to boot it with 01010.010111 <@ dragon> I have a laptop or PC that i can bring 01010.011000 <@ atoponce> cool. all squared away there for that meet, then? anything i'm missing? 01010.011000 atoponce wants to keep this meet under an hour if possible 01010.011000 <@ atoponce> :-)» 01010.011000 <@ Black_Chaos> maybe we should talk about getting people started on using linux 01010.011001 <@ Black_Chaos> whether they want to do a full install, or use knoppix, or use an emulator like vmware.... 01010.011001 <@ atoponce> Black_Chaos: how so? like showing what's available when switching over? 01010.011001 <@ atoponce> ahh 01010.011010 <@ dragon> should we give out some live cd's 01010.011010 <@ atoponce> i'm going to. i'll have 5 or 6 burned DSL discs to hand out 01010.011011 <@ dragon> does anyone have some live ubuntu CD's ? 01010.011011 <@ dragon> I only have 1 or 2 01010.011011 <@ linuxalien> I might havea cople 01010.011011 <@ linuxalien> couple 01010.011011 <@ atoponce> i don't, but i could burn more. i have plenty of blank disks... 01010.011011 <@ dragon> looking at my CD Supply it is very low... only have 3 01010.011100 <@ atoponce> if anyone can hand out disks, that would be pretty cool 01010.011101 <@ atoponce> i think this meet will be a great kickstart to the oct 12th install fest that we have tentatively planned 01010.011101 <@ dragon> i agree 01010.011101 <@ linuxalien> I could burn Gentoo CDRs 01010.011110 <@ atoponce> and the ubuntu-utah group wants to coordinate with us on this install fest 01010.011110 <@ dragon> sweet 01010.011110 <@ Black_Chaos> awesome 01010.011110 <@ dragon> that will be cool 01010.011110 <@ linuxalien> The more the merrier :) 01010.011111 <@ Black_Chaos> have you talked to that pizza place? 01010.011111 <@ dragon> with their involvement has a place for the install fest been decided 01010.011111 <@ atoponce> however, ubuntu-utah is a statewide group, mainly based in SLC and Provo. so, not sure if we want to have just one meeting, or do a statewide fest on the same day? 01010.100000 <@ atoponce> if i see christer (the ubuntu-utah prez) join, i'll invite him here to help plan 01010.100000 <@ atoponce> tristanbob_: ping 01010.100000 <@ Black_Chaos> wow a state wide fest would be really cool 01010.100001 <@ atoponce> that's what i think. if we could coordinate this with plug, sllug and ubuntu-utah on the same day, that would be awesome 01010.100001 <@ linuxalien> That sounds like a cool meet 01010.100001 <@ atoponce> but, having it in 3 different locations might not work as well as 1 centralized spot 01010.100010 <@ Black_Chaos> I think maybe we should do our little install-fest around here. Then have a state wide one some other time. Casue that would most likely be in SLC 01010.100011 <@ atoponce> it will be on the 2nd thurs, which means it will be in davis county at the davis wsu 01010.100011 <@ linuxalien> We could also get Xmission involved in the statewide one. 01010.100011 atoponce reminds everyone about the sept 30th meet at the WSU odgen campus 01010.100100 <@ atoponce> linuxalien: yeah. 01010.100100 <@ atoponce> Black_Chaos: you've had some success with xmission so far, no? 01010.100100 <@ Black_Chaos> I've got a box of schwag itting here 01010.100101 <@ Black_Chaos> s/itting/sitting 01010.100110 <@ atoponce> think you could get them to help sponsor the install fest? 01010.100110 <@ Black_Chaos> I could talk to them 01010.100111 <@ atoponce> cool. that would be great if they could help sponsor 01010.100111 <@ Black_Chaos> so are we thinking of doing this state wide one on oct 12? 01010.100111 <@ atoponce> the only thing i'm concerned about is plenty of lan connections 01010.101000 <@ atoponce> Black_Chaos: not sure. let's keep it open, and get in contact with christer. 01010.101001 <@ atoponce> for the time being, let's just plan having it at davis campus as an oalug/xmission fest 01010.101001 <@ Black_Chaos> ok 01010.101001 <@ linuxalien> Should we invite novell as well? 01010.101010 <@ atoponce> i'll contact carl again, and see what they want to do. novell would be good to have 01010.101011 <@ atoponce> looking ahead at oct 28th, what should we present on, or schedule? 01010.101101 <@ linuxalien> Internet safety for individuals in the workplace as well as families? 01010.101101 <@ atoponce> linuxalien: what sort of topics could you discuss with that? 01010.101110 <@ linuxalien> social engineering, chat and email atachments, putting personal info online, saving work on a computer with encryption 01010.101110 <@ linuxalien> firewalls, vpn, antivirus, spyware 01010.101111 <@ linuxalien> We could cover using a USB flashdrive distro to save important and confidential info. 01010.101111 <@ linuxalien> There are Linux distros that fit on a flash drive that can boot from windows, while windows is runnning 01010.101111 <@ atoponce> ok. that works. do you have experience with that? 01010.110001 <@ linuxalien> Only a little bit. I've got a 2gig flash drive so I can try setting that up for a live demo. 01010.110010 <@ Black_Chaos> That would be really cool. I've always wanted to have a flash drive distro 01010.110010 <@ atoponce> ok. any other ideas? i'm thinking that maybe we can get someone from guru labs to present some time 01010.110011 <@ linuxalien> That would be cool. Those guys know their stuff. 01010.110011 <@ Black_Chaos> I'm doing this Linux From Scratch thing and if all goes well I could give a presentation on it 01010.110100 <@ atoponce> Black_Chaos: yeah. i'm interested in that. i would like to see how that goes 01010.110101 <@ atoponce> i like the flash drive distro idea too 01010.110101 <@ linuxalien> I heard LFS is tough to set up. 01010.110101 <@ Black_Chaos> linuxalien: I'm about to find out :) 01010.110101 <@ atoponce> hehe 01010.110101 <@ atoponce> dragon: any ideas? 01010.110110 <@ dragon> what about some basic firewall, snort or vpn stuff 01010.110110 <@ Black_Chaos> i think a meeting on iptables would be cool. if someone knows it 01010.110110 <@ dragon> could go over bastille 01010.110110 <@ atoponce> that could go inline with linuxalien's idea of internet safety 01010.110111 <@ dragon> I could do iptables... 01010.110111 <@ atoponce> iptables are cool. we had one not too long ago, actually. :) 01010.110111 <@ dragon> also some basic things to help secure it 01010.111000 <@ dragon> i have been working on getting bastille to work on ubuntu 01010.111000 <@ atoponce> what is bastille again? 01010.111001 <@ dragon> it was written more for red hat and fedora... not sure how it does on gentoo or any other distro 01010.111001 <@ dragon> http://www.bastille-linux.org/ 01010.111001 <@ dragon> linux hardening too 01010.111001 <@ dragon> l 01010.111010 <@ atoponce> oh yeah. cool. 01010.111010 <@ linuxalien> I used it in Gentoo. 01010.111010 <@ atoponce> cool. 01010.111011 <@ dragon> it is an easy package install on ubuntu but some of the paths are wrong so it doesn't quite work and needs some tweeking 01010.111011 <@ atoponce> keep these ideas open for this meet. i want to revisit them. we could use them for future meets too 01011.000000 <@ dragon> what about new or interesting apps that newbies may not know about? 01011.000000 <@ dragon> i admit that i don't know a lot about tor or irssi etc. 01011.000000 <@ Black_Chaos> along that thought I had an idea 01011.000000 <@ atoponce> dragon: did you visit that meet when we did it like over a year ago? it was coll 01011.000000 <@ atoponce> Black_Chaos: ? 01011.000000 <@ atoponce> s/coll/cool/ 01011.000001 <@ dragon> I may have.... I don't remember anything after a day or too ;) 01011.000001 <@ atoponce> dragon: lol 01011.000001 <@ Black_Chaos> I was thinking that either once a month or even every meet we do a "App of the Month" type thing 01011.000001 <@ Black_Chaos> Either us or just one of the members shows off an app at the beginning of the meet 01011.000001 <@ atoponce> Black_Chaos: i was thinking something along those lines too. like having a topic for each month, and the two meets coordinate with it 01011.000010 <@ linuxalien> Black_Chaos, that sounds cool. 01011.000010 <@ Black_Chaos> We also post a little write up of it on the site 01011.000010 <@ atoponce> Black_Chaos: i like it 01011.000010 <@ dragon> sounds like a good idea 01011.000010 <@ atoponce> which i need someone willing to be the webmaster. i have a hard time remembering to post stuff to it 01011.000010 atoponce has a bad memory 01011.000011 <@ Black_Chaos> I'd kinda like to have access to post stuff on the blog 01011.000011 <@ atoponce> Black_Chaos: we used to have linux news from rusty keele. not sure if he's still interested in doing it or not 01011.000100 <@ atoponce> Black_Chaos: it's all yours! ;) i'll get with you later about setting up an account for you 01011.000100 <@ atoponce> rusty would give us the latest in linux news every meet 01011.000100 <@ atoponce> he did really good too. so that, and an app of the month, i think, would be great 01011.000110 <@ atoponce> in fact, come to think of it, i'll just have an account for all the officers to post news to the site 01011.000111 <@ linuxalien> Sounds good to me 01011.000111 <@ atoponce> oalug needs more officers too, so if anyone knows anybody... 01011.001000 <@ atoponce> speaking if which, i think we should have regular officer meets at least twice a month here. what do you think? 01011.001000 <@ dragon> sweet 01011.001000 <@ linuxalien> That would be cool. 01011.001001 <@ linuxalien> Yeah, that does sound like a good plan. 01011.001001 <@ dragon> sounds good 01011.001001 <@ atoponce> maybe the 1st and 3rd saturday of the month at 10am? 01011.001001 <@ Black_Chaos> sounds good 01011.001010 atoponce really wants to get this group rolling 01011.001010 <@ linuxalien> That's a good time 01011.001010 <@ atoponce> dragon: any objections? 01011.001010 <@ linuxalien> That would be cool. 01011.001010 <@ linuxalien> I'd love to see 20 or 30 people attending, or at least 15 01011.001010 <@ atoponce> we could even setup a google calendar to coordinat and plan 01011.001010 <@ dragon> none here 01011.001010 <@ atoponce> *coordinate 01011.001011 <@ linuxalien> Good idea! I love google calendar! 01011.001011 <@ atoponce> cool. then our next officer meet would be oct 7th 01011.001011 <@ atoponce> does that interfere with lds general conference? 01011.001100 <@ atoponce> nope. it's on the 30th. 01011.001100 <@ atoponce> hmm... 01011.001100 <@ atoponce> that does interfere with our upcoming meet, though... 01011.001101 <@ linuxalien> Bummer 01011.001101 <@ atoponce> and ideas, suggestions? 01011.001101 <@ linuxalien> We could always have an online meet on how to listen to conference using linux. :) 01011.001101 <@ atoponce> s/and/any/ 01011.001101 <@ atoponce> linuxalien: lol 01011.001101 <@ dragon> LOL 01011.001110 <@ Black_Chaos> ROFL 01011.001110 <@ linuxalien> I got it working with mplayer plugin before. :) 01011.001110 <@ atoponce> i really don't know what to do. should we move the time to 12, push it back/forward, leave it be? 01011.001111 <@ dragon> I coach a soccer team saturday morning... what time was the meeting at sept 30? 01011.010000 <@ linuxalien> I'm ok with 12 if that works better 01011.010000 <@ atoponce> well, i think mornings are best for saturday, but 12 works for me 01011.010000 <@ atoponce> i just worry that too many will be out and about doing things at that time 01011.010000 <@ atoponce> for normal saturdays, that is, not just on the 30th 01011.010001 <@ Black_Chaos> we could atleast push the 30th back to 12 01011.010010 <@ dragon> 12 would work best for me 01011.010010 <@ atoponce> and then from there? 01011.010010 <@ atoponce> s/then/then go/ 01011.010010 <@ atoponce> i can't type today 01011.010011 <@ linuxalien> That works for me 01011.010100 <@ atoponce> k. last thing on the agenda, schwag status 01011.010100 <@ Black_Chaos> lol 01011.010101 <@ linuxalien> I love schwag! 01011.010101 <@ atoponce> i have us setup with prentice hall to do the book review program again. Black_Chaos has got is in with xmission 01011.010101 <@ atoponce> i think we can get in with o'reilly and novell, although novell might be a bit tricky 01011.010110 <@ Black_Chaos> I look into O'Rielly Books review program 01011.010110 <@ linuxalien> My broher's gf got me a backpack from Linux Netwerx as well as an engraved pen and notebook from them 01011.010110 <@ atoponce> that would be great. i mentioned earlier that i will contact novell 01011.010110 <@ linuxalien> brother's 01011.010111 <@ linuxalien> i could see if I can contact them 01011.010111 <@ atoponce> cool 01011.011000 <@ dragon> sorry i really don't have anything in the schwag arena 01011.011000 <@ atoponce> i would like to get t-shirts for the group, but i don't know how to go about that. i went through a company local in ogden, creative advertising, and it didn't work out so well 01011.011001 <@ dragon> well only food 01011.011001 <@ dragon> specialty food 01011.011001 <@ linuxalien> Food works :) 01011.011001 <@ atoponce> 2nd street pizza has shown interest in the group in the past. maybe they can be our pizza sponsor... :-)» 01011.011001 <@ dragon> lol 01011.011010 <@ atoponce> christer just signed in. waiting for him to join, and give us ideas on the install fest 01011.011011 <@ dragon> I can get some food baskets to give out... not sure how many... maybe a handful 3 or 4 01011.011011 <@ linuxalien> We could get shirts and hats and stuff made through cafepress.com 01011.011100 <@ atoponce> i haven't had any luck there. how do you do it? 01011.011101 <@ linuxalien> Not sure. I'll have to look up the directions on their site. I think you just submit a logo, and they handle the rest. They take a cut of the sales and I've seen other LUG shirts on there 01011.011101 <@ atoponce> cool 01011.011101 <@ dragon> need to step away for just a bit 01011.011101 <@ dragon> brb 01011.011101 <@ linuxalien> k 01011.011101 <@ Black_Chaos> atoponce: I'll see if I can get in touch with one of the teachers at Fremont High that used to get sweatshirts and what not for our classes 01011.011101 <@ atoponce> np 01011.011110 <@ atoponce> Black_Chaos: sounds good 01011.011110 <@ linuxalien> Local would be good too 01011.100001 <@ linuxalien> http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/sell/makemoney/ 01011.100101 <@ linuxalien> In case the local thing doesn't work out 01011.100101 <@ atoponce> checking it out now... 01011.101010 <@ atoponce> christer is having trouble connecting, so we'll get with him later. 01011.101010 <@ atoponce> anything else? ideas? comments? questions? 01011.101100 <@ linuxalien> Can't think of anything at the moment. The only thing I can think of is maybe try and see if we can get discounts on food with local restaurants or coffee shops locally, sometime in the future 01011.101110 <@ atoponce> yeah. i'm going to get in contact with 2nd street pizza in ogden, and see if they are still interested or nat 01011.101110 <@ atoponce> s/nat/not/ 01011.101111 <@ linuxalien> That would be cool. Most people tend to like pizza. 01011.101111 <@ linuxalien> I could get in touch with Grounds for Coffee on 30th and Harrison as well as Got Coffee in Ogden. 01011.110100 <@ linuxalien> I'd better get ready for work. 01011.110101 <@ atoponce> yeah. i gotta go also 01011.110110 <@ linuxalien> I work until 10pm tonight 01011.110110 <@ linuxalien> Catch you guys later. It was nice meeting with everyone! 01011.110111 <@ linuxalien> Perfect timing! :) 01011.110111 <@ atoponce> ttyl 01011.110111 <@ linuxalien> ttyl! 01011.110111 < linuxalien!i=linuxali@gateway/tor/x-5906b4e05e71eefb ["I quit quitting"] 01011.111010 <@ Black_Chaos> well I guess we'll call this meeting to an end 01011.111011 <@ atoponce> yeah. that's what i'm thinking 01100.000010 <@ Black_Chaos> atoponce: Yougoing to post this to the site? 01100.000010 <@ atoponce> yeah. 01100.000100 <@ atoponce> i'll get an account setup for you too, and email you the details 01100.000100 <@ Black_Chaos> ok 01100.000101 <@ atoponce> gotta go. catch ya later 01100.000110 <@ Black_Chaos> later 01100.001110 <@ dragon> ok back 01100.001110 <@ dragon> sorry 01100.001110 <@ dragon> guess every one left 01100.001110 <@ dragon> later 01100.001110 <@ Black_Chaos> yeah you missed the end 01100.001111 <@ dragon> sorry had a couple wifey do's 01101.001010 <@ Black_Chaos> ARGH! 01101.001101 < dragon!n=dragon@c-24-10-128-239.hsd1.ut.comcast.net [Remote closed the connection] 01101.101101 < Black_Chaos!n=kevin@67-41-160-117.slkc.qwest.net []