--- Log opened Sat Aug 12 09:32:23 2006
09:44              >>> Black_Chaos!n=Owner@ACBFB2B0.ipt.aol.com
09:45 < Black_Cha> Hello
09:45              <   Black_Chaos!n=Owner@ACBFB2B0.ipt.aol.com [Client Quit]
09:46              >>> Black_Chaos!n=Owner@ACBFB2B0.ipt.aol.com
09:46 < Black_Cha> hello again
09:46 <@ atoponce> :)
09:46 <@ atoponce> morning
09:48 < Black_Cha> brb
09:48              <   Black_Chaos!n=Owner@ACBFB2B0.ipt.aol.com []
09:50              >>> Kevin_C!n=Owner@ACBFB2B0.ipt.aol.com
09:50 <   Kevin_C> ok back
09:50 <   Kevin_C> so how's it going?
09:50 <@ atoponce> different nick, eh?
09:50 <@ atoponce> good. waiting for the others
09:51 <   Kevin_C> yeah, decided to just change it to my name
09:51 <@ atoponce> in the meanwhile, trying to get a perl program to work
09:51 <   Kevin_C> fun
09:52 <@ atoponce> yeah. tell me about it
09:52 <@ atoponce> it's for work, so i don't even know why i am bothering with it at home
09:52 <@ atoponce> :)
09:54 <   Kevin_C> I do the same. tinkering with work programs at home
09:55 <@ atoponce> we're making a big switch to new software on labor day, and we need to be ready
10:00 <@ atoponce> john and joe should be here any minute
10:00 <@ atoponce> i just sent them an instant message
10:02 <   Kevin_C> ok
10:03              >>> root__!i=root@gateway/tor/x-fe797945870371f3
10:03 <    root__> ok
10:03 <    root__> ya just a sec
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10:04 <@ atoponce> i think that was john
10:05 <@ atoponce> tristanbob: ping
10:05 <   Kevin_C> Somehow he gained root access to irc :)
10:05 <@ atoponce> that's a pretty incredible task if he did
10:05 <@ atoponce> :)
10:08 <@ atoponce> and joe just signed out...
10:09 <@ atoponce> we'll give them a few more minutes, then we'll start without them
10:18 <@ atoponce> well, let's get started
10:18 <   Kevin_C> alright
10:18 <@ atoponce> i am sure they will straggle in (hopefully :))
10:19 <@ atoponce> i want to shoot for our next meeting date as sept 12, 2006
10:19 <@ atoponce> and start our regular meetings from there
10:19 <   Kevin_C> yeah
10:20              >>> swadmin!i=swadmin@gateway/tor/x-0d041211cc6148fc
10:20 <@ atoponce> swadmin: welcome
10:20 <@ atoponce> using tor. good man.
10:21 <@ atoponce> so the 12th would be the first meeting and the 30th the next
10:21 <   swadmin> ?
10:22 <@ atoponce> going over when the meets are. just quick briefing
10:23 <@ atoponce> by the 12th though, i want to have met with a couple of high schools to get interest in students
10:24 <@ atoponce> i think if we can meet with most the high schools in weber/davis counties, we should have a good participation
10:24 <@ atoponce> including the tech centers too
10:25 <@ atoponce> any ideas, thoughts?
10:26 <   Kevin_C> I'll try to get in contact with someone at Fremont High and the OWATC
10:27 <@ atoponce> my wife is a school teacher, and mentioned that the best way to go about this is probably by talking to the school districts first?
10:27 <   Kevin_C> well simplest would be to print up some fliers and give them to all the schools
10:28 <   Kevin_C> probably
10:28 <@ atoponce> i was thinking of maybe visiting with classes. the only problem with that is the time it would take and scheduling
10:28 <   swadmin> how many districts? just two ie weber and davis
10:28 <@ atoponce> yeah
10:28 <   Kevin_C> should probably include ogden district 
10:28 <@ atoponce> actually, i have a list of all the schools somewhere
10:29 <   swadmin> Isn't that still weber
10:29 <   swadmin> ?
10:29 <@ atoponce> i'll look for it later
10:29 <@ atoponce> it is on weber county, but ogden district
10:29 <   Kevin_C> weber and ogden are seperate districts 
10:29 <   swadmin> ah
10:29 <@ atoponce> i counted something like 26 schools
10:29 <@ atoponce> i think
10:30 <@ atoponce> http://www.weber.k12.ut.us/index.php?module=Schools&func=viewschoolsbytype&type_id=3
10:31 <@ atoponce> http://www.davis.k12.ut.us/home/schools.html
10:31 <@ atoponce> http://www.ogden.k12.ut.us/
10:32 <@ atoponce> not all of them have technology courses. but i think we still should be able to get some interest...
10:32 <@ atoponce> will schools let us hand out flyers?
10:34 <@ atoponce> i want to get some decent exposure, but not exactly sure how to do it
10:34 <   Kevin_C> If you talk to the right people, they should
10:35 <@ atoponce> the district offices are only open m-f like 8-5, at which we will be at work.
10:36 <   Kevin_C> I can try to get a number of who would be best to talk to in the weber school district on monday
10:36 <@ atoponce> ok. that would be great.
10:37 <@ atoponce> swadmin: can you get in contact with someone in the davis district?
10:37 <@ atoponce> i can do the ogden
10:38 <   swadmin> yep
10:38 <@ atoponce> swadmin: can you cover the datc too?
10:38 <   swadmin> aaron how to I set a alias to show up ?
10:39 <@ atoponce> in linux or irssi?
10:39 <   swadmin> so you don't have to call me swadmin
10:39 <   swadmin> :)
10:39 <   swadmin> yep
10:39 <@ atoponce> you can change your nick with /nick
10:39 <@ atoponce>  /nick encryptz
10:41 <   swadmin> irssi
10:42 >>> You're now known as encryptz
10:42 <   swadmin> ok
10:42 <   swadmin> do you see your nick when you type a message?
10:42 <   Kevin_C> So I was thinking that for one of those first couple meetings we should contact like Wiley books or O'Reilly etc, and try to get some free gifts that we could raffle off or something
10:42 <   swadmin> That would be cool
10:42 <   swadmin> anyone have any ubuntu CD's 
10:43 <@ encryptz> Kevin_C: yeah. that would be great
10:43 <   Kevin_C> yeah, we could burn or even try to order a bunch of those
10:43 >>> You're now known as atoponce
10:44 <@ atoponce> ordering takes a great deal of time. burning would be a lot faster. they just wouldn't be as nice
10:45 <@ atoponce> i would recommend burning them at the meet though
10:45 <@ atoponce> i still have like 20 breezy disks that i burned a while back.
10:45 <@ atoponce> i burned like 75 of them :)
10:45 <   swadmin> since school is starting soon would the ACM be able to supply something?
10:45 <@ atoponce> i don't think i'll ever get rid of them
10:46 <   swadmin> should we have just ubuntu?
10:46 <@ atoponce> swadmin: no, the acm is a joke. if it doesn't have anything to do with programming contests, they don't get involved
10:47 <   swadmin> i think that would be the best for new users
10:47 <@ atoponce> yeah. you know my stance on ubuntu :)
10:47 <   swadmin> just put on the flyer that anyone that shows gets a free breezy cd :)
10:47 <@ atoponce> ubuntu for everyone!
10:48 <@ atoponce> dapper has benn out for 2½ months though
10:48 <@ atoponce> *been
10:49 <@ atoponce> looking at the calendar, can we get in contact with the school districts by the 19th?
10:49 <@ atoponce> we have 4 weeks until our next meeting
10:51 <   Kevin_C> Should be able to contact people within the week
10:52 <@ atoponce> cool. i think that will be a good start
10:52 <@ atoponce> the toughest thing for me is meeting topics and what to present on
10:53 <   swadmin> what were the dates again?
10:53 <@ atoponce> with planning our next meeting to be the 12th, what should we present on?
10:53 <@ atoponce> 2nd tues and last sat of every month
10:53 <@ atoponce> sept -> 12th and 30th
10:55 <   Kevin_C> if were shooting for new members at that meeting, probably basics of the group, website, mailing list, irc and then an intro to linux
10:56 <   swadmin> this is going to sound cliche but depending on how many people come we should find out their skills and then base what we present on on that... it may be good or bad
10:56 <@ atoponce> yeah. i agree
10:56 <@ atoponce> kind of like a kick-start meeting
10:57 <   swadmin> some of us that are pro open source will be bored unless we find a way to get them involved
10:57 <@ atoponce> sorry if it takes a while for my response. the irc lag right now for me is over 90 seconds... :(
10:58 <@ atoponce> swadmin: expand...
10:58 <   swadmin> I always like teaching people about linux... but if we get someone like my mother-in-law we will be in for a long night ;)
10:58 <@ atoponce> i see
10:58 <   swadmin> ya
10:59 <   swadmin> np
10:59 <@ atoponce> we'll have to get a feel for the group at the meeting. maybe quick intros from everyone
10:59 <   swadmin> just saying that if we get some real newbies we should encourage questions and then schedule an install fest and get them interested
11:00 <@ atoponce> swadmin: since you are the install fest coord (i think), when should we have an install fest?
11:02 <   swadmin> but depending on their understanding ( I am thinking High School Students ) it may be a long intro
11:02 <@ atoponce> well, we would keep it brief
11:02 <   swadmin> is it going to be social or more a technical focus... or both.... High school students may be more into social... but they may be a supervillan who knows
11:03 <   swadmin> I would like to get a feel from the first meeting and see what we get.  since this is somewhat of a fresh start i would like to see what kind of skill sets are brought to the table
11:03 <@ atoponce> well, i think Kevin_C's idea was right on. start with brief socializing, then talk about the group, the mailing list, etc.
11:04 <@ atoponce> basically, just introduce the group, and what oalug is all about
11:04 <   swadmin> I like that also
11:05 <   Kevin_C> Yeah, I'm guessing that there would be a lot of people that don't know about or how-to use irc and thats something thats inportant for linux
11:05 <   Kevin_C> *important
11:05 <@ atoponce> that meeting will give us an idea for what to plan for future meetings
11:05 <@ atoponce> also, i think the meetings should be planned 4 weeks in advance
11:06 <@ atoponce> it gives enough time for people to get their schedules in order and plan for the meet
11:06 <   Kevin_C> yeah, that sounds right
11:06 <   swadmin> since we are trying to get more involement any ideas on how to do that?
11:07 <   swadmin> just trying to come up with some good info when I contact the DATC and Davis School Districts
11:07 <@ atoponce> well, that's what i was hoping visiting the schools would do
11:07 <@ atoponce> i think we just need to get the word out
11:07 <@ atoponce> i do still have positions that aren't filled...
11:08 <   swadmin> my wife says that free food always works... especially for High School Students
11:08 <@ atoponce> i won't argue with that ;)
11:09 <   Kevin_C> Thats what I was thinking. For like the install fest try to get a pizza place to sponsor or something
11:09 <@ atoponce> 2nd street pizza has been more than willing to help us so they can get their name out
11:09 <@ atoponce> they are fairly new, and want business
11:09 <   Kevin_C> cool
11:10 <@ atoponce>  need a public relations director to handle stuff like that. i guess in the meantime, i can do it
11:11 <   swadmin> I could get some food baskets to give out... filled with different specialty food items like salsa, etc
11:11 <@ atoponce> sweet
11:13 <@ atoponce> ok. so by the 19th, get with your assigned school district and see what needs to be done to get in contact with high schools
11:13 <   swadmin> one meet we should have a side by side comparison of linux and windows and maybe show the benifits of linux
11:13 <@ atoponce> i'll see what 2nd street pizza can do for us
11:13 <@ atoponce> we still need to plan the meeting for the 30th.
11:14 <@ atoponce> or we can do that later. we have time i guess
11:14 <@ atoponce> maybe we should focus just on the meet for the 12th
11:15 <   swadmin> we should wait and get a feel from our 12th meeting... that should help us plan the 30th
11:15 <   Kevin_C> well I'm thinking a good path to go would be an intro meeting, then like an over view of various distros, then an intallfest
11:15 <   Kevin_C> something along those lines
11:15 <   swadmin> that sounds good
11:16 <@ atoponce> i like that. the 30th could be a comparison meeting and oct 10th an install fest?
11:17 <   swadmin> sounds good
11:17 <@ atoponce> Kevin_C: what distro do you use?
11:17 <   Kevin_C> thats a good tentative plan
11:17 <   Kevin_C> ubuntu on my server opensuse on my desktop 
11:18 <@ atoponce> swadmin: you use ubuntu, right?
11:19 <@ atoponce> Kevin_C: would you mind presenting on opensuse for that meet on the 30th?
11:19 <   swadmin> the one and only :)
11:19 <   swadmin> also use Fedora Core 5
11:20 <   Kevin_C> yeah i could do that
11:20 <   swadmin> and open/freeBSD
11:20 <@ atoponce> swadmin: what could you present on?
11:21 <   swadmin> anything really pick your poison 
11:21 <   swadmin> for the 30th
11:21 <   swadmin> ?
11:21 <@ atoponce> yeah
11:21 <@ atoponce> i can do ubuntu/dsl/dsl-n
11:21 <   swadmin> security is my main forte
11:22 <@ atoponce> swadmin: familiar enough with the *BSDs?
11:22 <   swadmin> soso on the BSD's
11:22 <   swadmin> better at Fedora
11:22 <@ atoponce> swadmin: do ubuntu
11:22 <   swadmin> ok
11:22 <@ atoponce> i'll do dsl/dsl-n
11:23 <   swadmin> what kind of time frame ?
11:23 <   swadmin> 15 min 30 min ?
11:23 <@ atoponce> 20-25 min
11:23 <@ atoponce> i was thinking
11:24 <   swadmin> any particular focus?
11:24 <@ atoponce> probably the highlights of the distro. what make it stand out from others
11:24 <   swadmin> cool
11:25 <   Kevin_C> well guys I gotta go
11:26 <   Kevin_C> i think we've made some good plans
11:26 <   Kevin_C> I'll work on getting in contact with the schools
11:26 <@ atoponce> and for the meeting on the 12th, just intros for about 10-15 min, oalug stuff (irc, mailing list, etc) for about 30 min, then socializing the remainder?
11:26 <@ atoponce> Kevin_C: cool
11:26 <   swadmin> sweetness
11:26 <@ atoponce> thx for coming. i'll send out an email to the group
11:27 <@ atoponce> about the plans, etc
11:27 <   Kevin_C> I'll let ya know whenever I find anything out
11:27 <@ atoponce> i've logged this irc session too. i'll put it up on the site
11:27 <   swadmin> same here 
11:27 <   Kevin_C> good
11:27 <@ atoponce> as will i
11:27 <   Kevin_C> alright talk to ya guys later
11:28 <@ atoponce> later
11:28 <   swadmin> cya
11:28              <   Kevin_C!n=Owner@ACBFB2B0.ipt.aol.com []
11:28 <@ atoponce> i should probably go as well. gotta mow the lawn
11:29 <@ atoponce> you're the install fest coordinator and davis rep, right?
11:29 <   swadmin> ditto... wife is bugging me also
11:30 <   swadmin> yep from what we talked about a week or two ago
11:30 <@ atoponce> ok. just making sure :)
11:30 <@ atoponce> ttyl
11:30 <   swadmin> ok
11:30              <   swadmin!i=swadmin@gateway/tor/x-0d041211cc6148fc ["leaving"]
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